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History

The Denby Dale Pie Hall first opened its doors on September 5th 1972. It started with the Pie Comittee having a vision of creating a village hall, one for the community where events and special occasions could be held and of course to commemorate the traditions of the famous Denby Dale Pies and have space to exhibit pie memorabilia.

We still today have the Pie Dish of 1964, which is situated in our Car Park and serves as a beautiful flower bed. We have many of the utensils which were used during the making of the pies, newspaper articles, tapestries, plates and even have some pie samples, some of which date over one hundred years old!

History of the Denby Dale Pie

1788

The Very First Denby Dale Pie

In the late 18th century, Denby Dale comprised mainly of scattered farms on the hillsides, accompanied by small clusters of cottages nestled in the hollows at Haywood Bottom, Revell Bottom and Wood Nook.

It was predominantly a rural community that, in 1788, united to celebrate a holiday and partake in a communal feast, to mark the recovery of King George III, from severe mental affliction. To honor him, a substantial game pie was prepared in the oven at the White Hart Inn. The pie was then sliced and served to villagers who had gathered in the nearby Cliff Style field.

Regrettably, there exists no written record detailing the contents of the pie or documenting the day’s festivities.

1815

The Victory Pie

The Napoleonic War instilled anxiety, with widespread rumors of a potential French invasion. The culmination of this tension came with the Duke of Wellington’s triumph over Napoleon at Waterloo in 1815, putting an end to these fears and sparking nationwide jubilation.

Denby Dale enthusiastically partook in these celebrations by crafting an expansive pie, featuring two sheep and twenty fowls encased in a colossal pastry crust made from half a peck of flour. This noteworthy pie was baked in an oven at Corn Mill and, reminiscent of the festivities in 1788, was distributed to the gathered villagers during a communal feast.

29th August 1846

The Repeal of the Corn Laws Pie

During the Napoleonic War, British farmers had received encouragement to cultivate sufficient corn to ensure the country’s self-sufficiency, given the effective cessation of corn imports from Europe. As the war concluded, many farmers harbored concerns about a potential surge in foreign corn imports flooding the market, leading to a decline in prices and jeopardizing their livelihoods.

In response to these fears, the Tory government implemented the Corn Laws in 1815, barring the import of foreign corn until British corn reached the famine price of 80 shillings a quarter. This measure, intended to safeguard farmers’ interests, had the unintended consequence of keeping bread prices unusually high, particularly detrimental to the poor who relied on bread as a staple in their diet.

The Corn Laws became a symbol of the oppression faced by the poor at the hands of the landed gentry, and the post-1837 economic downturn years acquired the moniker of the “Hungry Forties” for a compelling reason. When the despised Corn Laws were eventually repealed in 1846, it seemed only fitting for Denby Dale to decide to commemorate the occasion with yet another celebratory pie.

The pie was baked in the village in a grand oven at Cuckstool Farmhouse. In fact, this oven, standing near the footbridge over a river, was used as a dyehouse and a plaster’s workshop before being swept away only in recent years. A temporary stage had been erected and a large number of people had assembled in the field. The immense pie was brought into the field on a farmer’s wagon and lifted onto the temporary stage. Some speeches were made, and as the crowd below increased so did the people on the stage until, whilst one of the orators was holding forth on the advantages of a cheap loaf, the stage gave way and came down, pie and all, with a crash!

A crowd of 15,000 people surged forward, a scramble ensued and amid a wild state of turmoil and riot the stage was utterly demolished and the pie flung to the winds.  

There was no formal cutting up of the pie since Mr.Joseph Peace, who was to have had that honour, is reported to have fallen into the pie when the stage collapsed.

The celebration came to a sudden end. Rumours were rife of sabotage and many suspects were accused, over the years the story of these disastrous proceedings passed into local legend.

The remarkable list of ingredients which went into the making of the 1846 pie was recounted as follows:
91 ½lbs suet – 19lbs lard – 16lbs fresh butter – 100lbs beef – 1 calf – 5 sheep – 7 hares – 14 rabbits – 4 pheasants – 4 partridges – 2 brace grouse – 6 pigeons – 2 turkeys – 2 Guinea fowls – 4 ducks – 4 geese – 4 fowls – 63 small birds – and  1lb pepper.

The pie was a stand pie, with its bottom, sides and top made from pastry prepared by three or four of the best cooks in the neighbourhood. 44½ stone of flour went into making the huge pastry coffin, measuring 21 feet in circumference and 1 foot 10 inches deep, into which the meat and game contents were placed. The pie took 10½ hours to bake and it resembled a huge pork pie.

27th August 1887

The Golden Jubilee Pie – The one that was off!

A period of 41 years elapsed before Denby Dale recovered sufficiently from the shameful memory of the 1846 pie to risk making another. The occasion was the Golden Jubilee of Queen Victoria’s reign, and plans were laid to make a pie to celebrate the joyous event on 27th August 1887, “ and further to show the world we are true to the tradition of our forefathers“

Ingredients in the pie included :
1581 lb beef – 180 lb mutton – 163 lb veal – 180 lb lamb – 250 lb lean pork – 64 rabbits – 3 hares – 42 fowls – 40 pigeons – 12 grouse – 21 ducks – 4 plovers – 1 turkey – 5 geese – 2 wild ducks – 108 small birds – 40 stone potatoes.

Once all the ingredients were in, the pie weighed nearly 1½ ton. On the day of the pie, the thousands of people crammed into the pie field, all gathered around for the official cutting of the pie by Mr.John Brierley and upon the first cut into the pastry the crowd instantly cleared a space of 20 feet on all sides.

The pie was bad!

The overpowering odour had a repellent effect which sent the crowd racing for safety, it was also said that the smell had brought in the hounds of the Penistone & Thurlestone Hunt loping in from 5 miles away. None the less, despite the smell, those who could get hold of scraps of pie came away proudly clutching their trophies. For over an hour scenes of people grabbing and fighting for every little morsel they could lay their hands on continued.
 
Yet this was not the end of the pie. 
On Sunday, 28th August 1887 what remained of the putrid mess was taken in solemn procession to the Toby Wood, where it was tipped out of its dish into a pit, and interred in quick lime, with much rejoicing from the locals.

3rd September 1887

The Resurrection Pie

The resurrection Pie was baked in the same dish and in the same oven as its unfortunate predecessor, in order to provide the inhabitants of Denby Dale with the Jubilee meal which they had not received.

This time there was to be no publicity, no visitors, just villages enjoying the occasion.

From henceforth, game was excluded from Denby Dale pies, but potatoes, which first appeared as an emergency added ingredient in 1887, were to become the essential partner to meat.

The pie was placed back in the oven to bake, and when ready was put on Mr Smith’s stone cart to be taken to Inkerman Mills to be distributed.
 
Two horses were yoked to the cart, and when the mills ceased work for the day a start was made from the bakehouse. At Inkerman Mills the pie was served to village children in one room, while the adults were served in another.

The old people were given a gill of beer each to wash the pie down and, along with the children, were given a little bit of pie to take home for Sunday dinner.

The pie was a great success, and partly restored the tarnished reputation of the Jubilee Pie Committee members.

1st August 1896

Repeal of the Corn Laws Jubilee Pie

It is, perhaps, hard for us to imagine that the fiftieth anniversary of the Repeal of the Corn Laws could be such a cause for celebration that Denby Dale would want to bake another pie, especially as memories of the 1887 fiasco were still vivid in the memory.
 
Yet, in 1896 it was strongly felt in the village that the Jubilee should be marked in traditional fashion. 
The committee which was formed to plan and co-ordinate the event for 1st August 1896 took no chances. 

The preparation and baking was entrusted to a team of ladies from the village under the supervision of five local experts. The circular pie dish of 1887 was cleaned and scrubbed out and pressed into service once more.

The pie was served in Norman Park, this time on a stout and sturdy structure ensuring no repeat of any collapse.

The pie contained the following :
1120lb beef – 180lb veal – 112lb mutton – 60lb lamb  and topped off with a crust made from 20 stone of flour, 24lb lard, 24lb butter, and 30lb of suet. 

It took 6 hours to cook the meat and 2½ hours to bake the crust and, in all, the pie weighed 1 ton and 15 hundredweight.

28th August 1928

The Infirmary Pie

Unlikely as it may seem to some, the 1928 Pie is still regarded by many Denby Dalers as having been a very belated celebration of the end of the First World War. The possibility of baking a great victory pie at the end of the war had been considered but, due to shortage of materials, was abandoned.

When, however, Huddersfield Royal Infirmary was in need of funds to improve its medical services, 
Denby Dale decided to organise its biggest ever pie, the proceeds from which would go to the Infirmary. As this was the biggest ever pie, the old 1887 pie dish could not be used.

Instead a new rectangular steel dish measuring 16 feet x 5 feet x 15 inches deep and weighing 1ton 15 cwt was commissioned, and a special oven was built at the Corn Mill to receive it.

The contents of the pie were :
4 bullocks ( 600lb of beef ) – 15 cwt potatoes , topped by a crust made from 80 stone of flour – 2 cwt lard  and 2 stone of baking powder.

This all added up to 100 cubic feet of pie which was sufficient for 20,000 people to have nearly ¼lb each.

1953

The Would-Be Coronation Pie

During the Second World War and the years of austerity which followed, there was little mention of pies. However, the accession of Queen Elizabeth II in 1953 was seen by many as the dawn of better times. The Coronation  in June 1953 would be a chance for Denby Dale to celebrate in traditional fashion by baking another pie.

As wartime food restrictions were still in force, an application had to be made to the Ministry of Food for a special allocation of meat and fat. It was turned down. This was a terrific blow to Denby Dale’s hopes, particularly as £203 had been raised in the village towards the cost of the celebrations.

The villagers’ plight reached the ears of the Farmers and Settlers Association in New South Wales, Australia, who offered to provide 1,400lb of beef to enable Denby Dale to make its pie. An arrangement was worked  out whereby the Australian Meat Board would replace meat released  by the British Ministry of Food.

Unfortunately, the offer was not received until 22nd May 1953, only days before the Coronation, and too late in view of the lengthy preparations involved in making a pie.
 
The offer was regretfully declined, and the Coronation festivities went ahead without a pie. 

5th September 1964

The Village Hall Pie

In 1963, for fear of the tradition dying out, a public meeting was called in Denby Dale to explore local response to the suggestion of making another pie. 
A packed meeting voted overwhelmingly in support of the idea, even though at the time no event, celebration or anniversary was forthcoming for which a pie would have been a fitting tribute, as on previous occasions.

The reason  for having a pie became plain: to raise funds for a village community hall. 

When it became known that no less than four Royal babies were expected to be born in 1964, this unique event was happily adopted as the official excuse for a celebration.

Preparations for the 1964 Pie were spread out over many months, and responsibility for different aspects of the organisation was allocated to appropriate local committees. There were several fund raising events, and orders were placed for huge quantities of pie plates, and other souvenirs. 
As the event was expected to attract  about 250,000 visitors, the logistics of providing car parking, catering, and public conveniences for such a vast influx of people had to be very carefully worked out.

The pie dish, measuring 18 feet x 6 feet x 1½ feet deep actually saw service as a ship when, complete with a party aboard, it was sailed on the Mirfield canal as a pre-Pie Day publicity stunt.

The pie contained : 3 ton of beef – 1½ ton of potatoes – ½ ton of gravy  and seasoning. Another ½ ton of flour and ¼ ton of lard was needed to prepare the 650 square feet of crust.

The baking was done in a local farmer’s newly built milking parlour, where a ramp and viewing window was constructed so that members of the public could watch the progress of the pie. When the Pie Day dawned, the village was adorned with flags and decorations, a huge Trade Fair, funfairs and illuminations hanging from the arches of the viaduct and the pie field. Norman Park was packed with marquees for refreshments, food and conveniences, whilst the village streets were swathed in bunting, garlands and flags.
 
The doors of the milking parlour were swung open at 2pm and a grand parade began, the Pie itself being drawn by the Marshall Foch traction engine and was followed by a half a mile long procession of carnival floats.

September 5th 1972

The Pie Hall Opens its Doors

September 3rd 1988

The Bicentenary PieThe Guinness World Record Holder

This was known as The Bicentenary Pie and was held on September 3 1988 to celebrate 200 years since the first pie.

The sun shone after a week of rain, and the BBC Radio One Roadshow, hosted by Mike Read, broadcast live from the pie field. 

There were 170 servers and people paid £1 for a slice. The event was held over two days with 60,000 people served the first day and 30,000 the second.
 
The pie went into the Guinness Book of Records as the biggest meat and potato pie in the world.
 
This the 9th pie, was baked in a tin measuring 20ft. long, 7ft. wide and 18 inches deep. Its contents included 3000kgs English beef, 3000kgs potatoes and 700kgs onions; Scissett Middle School children planted some of the vegetables that were used.
 
The meat was cooked in steam kettles in ¼ tonne batches and then placed into the pre-heated dish.

2000

The Millennium Pie

This pie was created to mark the new millennium and was the biggest one to date!

The Pie was a staggering 40ft long, by 9ft wide, by 3ft deep and weighed in at an incredible 12 ton.

To mark the occasion the pie was cut by cricketing legend, Dickie Bird.

Over the course of the event 22,000 were served.